You see, I can still check in with JWD AND study for the bar exam (21 days, and I think I can say I now have personal jurisdiction down. Thanks for the Civil Procedure review Barbara )
Shoshana
La Capra
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Napa Valley, CA Child Abuse Court Case Victories
by AndersonsInfo innapa wt child abuse case.
two important court decisions, which came out of napa valley, ca, are now available for us to post on jwd.
these significant rulings overturn objections regularly made by the watchtower in recent lawsuits and may serve as a precedent for future lawsuits.
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Diary of a mad Jdub woman.
by jojochan inmy cousin is at end of her rope..... even though she tells me how she does not want to marry a "worldly" man she can't help but to conclude that that's what's gonna happen.
she's now "talking" to a brother that's in her words "brokeback" but o.k in her opinion.
she's also frustrated that he although enjoys sneaking over her house and fooling around with her, he has made no effort to say, "roll with me, i wanna be your man.
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La Capra
All of her options result in the same thing
1) She waits and finds a "brother" to marry. It isn't going to happen-and if it does, it won't be a love match-she'll be stuck in a lousy relationship, in which she is relegated to the "helper" and is treated as a second (or third) class citizen by her life partner.
2) She remains single-holding out for Brother Right. As a female, she is of no use to the congregation, and as a single female she is a liability as a friend to the married sisters (she might try to steal their husbands), and competition for the unmarried sisters. Her frienships (if she has any) will be unauthentic and colored by jealousy and politics.
3) She dates and marries a worldly guy. She won't be treated too much differently than if she stayed single as in option number 1. She may be reproved, or even disfellowshipped. Once "reinstated" she will still be treated as an outcast. However, on the plus side, she will have a love match, and a rocking husband that treats her better than any "brother" would. And she has access to the "world" whenever she wants escape from the religion.
As a woman, unless her dream is to be a pioneer, the practical result of her marrying a worldly guy is no different than if she stayed single, and not that much different than if she married another JW, but the benefits would far outweigh any slight change to her "status" (which sounds like it isn't too good anyway).
I'm glad I realized the irony of this when I was in my teens. I saw the process in action with a couple of gals in their late twenties--both went outside to get spouses (and one the daughter of an elder, too). And these were stunningly beautiful women, too. They have great marriages and were never treated that well in the congregation anyway, since they were hot, single women.
Since she doesn't have a Y chromosome, it really doesn't matter what she does-in the practical sense.
Shoshana
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I could-a...but I didn't
by HadEnuf inthere i was, on my way to the post office and right ahead of me, jay-walking no less, is our po.
(well...our former po).
all alone...in his nice gray suit and little folder under his arm (what happened to book-bags...are they obsolete?
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Can't you just see it...
Experiences:
One afternoon, the presiding overseer of a growing congregation was crossing the street while in field service alone. Unbeknownst to the elder, an apostate was driving on the very same street the elder was crossing. Determined to murder him, the apostate started to accelerate her car by pressing on the gas. But, thanks to the protection of Jehovah, this fine elder, while in Jehovah's sacred service, was spared because Jehovah caused the conscience of the apostate to reconsider her decision.
Brothers and Sisters-aren't we grateful for Jehovah's fine protection? (applause, applause)
Brothers and Sisters-aren't we secure in knowing that no matter what, if we are doing Jehovah's will, he will take care of us? (applause, applause)
Brothers and Sisters-isn't it good that we stay off the internet, so as not to fall into the evil hands of Satan and his earthly army of apostates? (applause, applause)
Blech.
Shoshana
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Anyone else raised in a "divided" household?
by dinah inhey folks!.
i've noticed there are many here who were raised "in the truth".
are there any who were raised in a divided household--where one parent is not a jw?.
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Dinah,
That's me exactly. My mom was baptized when I was a few months old....
My dad's position gave me a tad more freedom, under my mom's tight reign....
My dad was SO MUCH NICER that the men at the hall...
If it weren't for that, I wouldn't be college educated,well settled in a teaching career for 15 years, and having a relatively normal life (for someone who was raised like we were).
It made it that much easier to leave when I got old enough.
And just the other day, when I received my doctorate, there he was, telling me how very, very proud he was of me, with tears in his eyes. My mom was proud too, but her praise was, well, underwhelming, to say the least.
Shoshana
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Well, they finally came to my door
by Wolfgirl inwe've lived here for nearly 2 years now, and this is the first i've seen them, and i'm home most of the time.
they caught me as i was taking the rubbish out; i didn't even realise they were in my front garden.
anyway, it was the first warm saturday we've had since last year, and here comes a mother with her young son.
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You will never see her again, but don't be surprised if a pair of elders will be showing up soon, completely armed with all your "vital statistics," just as soon as this woman asks a question or to, trying to refute your claims.
Your address will also be listed on the territory call as "do not call." That's so's no unsuspecting "publisher" gets "gets apostized to."
But they will really leave you alone after this.
Shoshana
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Did you use to shun family members or friends?
by M.J. in.
have you since re-established contact with them?
i wonder if the act of shunning someone you love actually strengthens your resolve that you're following the "right" course.
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Only the people I wanted nothing to do with. Their status as a JW had (and still has) nothing to do with whether I associate with someone. When I was a kid, some DFed people didn't want to get in more trouble and wouldn't talk to me, but not all of them.My haridresser was DFed but I refused to go to anyone else, because she was a hair genius--the best in town. I didn't keep that a secret.
Shoshana
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interesting experience....
by hallowedbethyname inhello all.. just wanted to pass along an experience that i had about a month or so ago.
i was invited to a jw wedding of a friend of mine.. also invited was a 'marked' brother who is a very close friend of the bride.
he was recently marked after the invitations were sent out, so he came along with his 'worldly girlfriend'.. anyways, long story short, about 10 upstanding jw's decided to make a stink just before the bride and groom were to enter the reception hall to do their first dance.
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I thought "marking" was an individual decision, and that you really weren't supposed to announce to others if you were marking someone. (Even though everyone knew, because of the "special needs talk, and the subsequent gossip.) I s'pose you could tell the person you were marking, but, then you would be braking your own private shun-fest, now wouldn't you....
If he was on public, or even private reproof, he would have been accepting of his punishment and would not have attended the reception, thus manifesting his contrition.
Or are things really this snotty these days?
Shoshana
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What do you love spending your money on?
by JH ini always did love tv's and cars.
i really don't know hom many tv's i bought in my life.......15 or 20?
and cars also......i think i'm up to my 15th .
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Real Estate and Education
Shoshana (J.D. )
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Speaking to an Elder tomarrow, I'm almost free!!!!!!!
by drew sagan inmajor developments in my world, just wanted to let you all know about it.
i'm meeting with the elder tomarrow afternoon.
i'm going to stick heavy to the watchtowers interpretation of matthew 24 and how it is unbalanced, sensationalized and out of touch with any historical evidence or respect for the bible.
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Drew,
All it took for me was one flaw in the WTBTS version of things for the whole house of cards to fall. The reason? Because it claims it is the only truth. By inculcating me with their black and white thinking from the day I was born, it was black and white thinking, on my part, that allowed one chink to condemn them completely. Perhaps this was what kicked in your wife?
My exit was in the 80s, though. I understand there is a lot of talk of "imperfect humans" these days, and waiting on Jehovah... So maybe they filled that hole with some putty since I've been gone.
Best of life to you and your wife,
Shoshana
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Did you know of any JW's brothers that were "wife beaters"? Were they DF'd?
by booker-t inyears ago when i was attending my old kh there was an elder that was very stern.
bro glen(not his real name) used to be very firm in telling students about their talks not being good, or where they needed to improve.
i know i was "terrified" of bro glen.
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Pioneer Gal I knew had problems with her husband, and he spanked her. She got disfellowshipped, I think for not being a submissive wife. This was in the late 1980s.
She divorced him (after the disfellowshipping), went to college and married a really cool guy. I hope they're still married....
Shoshana